how are gay people viewed in japan?

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shikanosuke · Answer

同性愛文化は面白いです。他の国のことはよく知りませんが、日本では男性の同性愛文化が昔から盛んですね。なんでかよく分かりませんが。一般にどのように見てるかはひとそれぞれでしょうから分かりません。昨今のLGBT運動は非常に鬱陶しいです。

shikanosuke · Answer

@sakisuke 上の方が言われてる川原泉って人初めて知りましたが、その方のようにリベラルと言われる人でもどんな人でも仙人のような人じゃなければ誰かをからかって生きてます。かつて衆道が一般的だったころのように認められたいんでしょうかね。よく分かりませんが、そういうことはあり得るかもしれませんが、衆道を嗜まない秀吉みたいのがからかわれるようになるかもしれませんね。同性婚は税金を投入しないなら反対する理由はないかな。

shikanosuke · Answer

@sakisuke 私もより良い社会を目指すことは素晴らしいと思います。かつて反捕鯨の人と話したことがありますが、絶対に理解し合えないと思いました。そういう人たちとも何とかやっていくのが現実かなと思っています。
こちらこそご丁寧にありがとうございました。

shikanosuke · Answer

@shonen_kenya まず同性愛が冷遇されてると考える前に異性愛が推奨される理由を考えればいいんじゃないですかね。人間は本能に任せてるだけでは他の動物のように生き残れないと思いますよ。だから無理して異性愛を推奨してると私は思ってます。だから異性婚には税金を投入する価値があると私は思ってます。まあ税金かからないならそれに越したことはないですが。

shikanosuke · Answer

@hayabusa6796 ご教授ありがとうございます。
仲の良い友人に同性愛嫌悪の人がいるのでなんでそんな嫌悪するんかなあと思う程度には同性愛自体についてはなんというかプレーンな見方をしてると思いますが、税金の無駄遣いが批判されてる中で税金の使いみちの優先順位というのをつけなければいけませんよね。そういう意味では
＞「子供を持った時点」にまで引き下げるなら
というのは私も一案だと思いますよ。後半の@hayabusa6796 さんの不満も尤もなことだと思いますね。

Dragonflyer · Answer

@MrRainbow1803 Though I don’t know if it’s right to post my comment just after a seemingly needless and meaningless quarrel over a topic that is obviously irrelevant to the original question (is this thread meant for discussing how difficult Japanese is?😂) , but here I’d go a bit serious and say: things are getting better, honestly.

As a non-straight person who belongs to the LGBT community of this country, I feel Japan is quite an average country about this issue: not that good or not that bad. Japan may be lagging (way) behind the western countries, Taiwan and Thailand in making gay-friendly policy, but visible hate crimes against us are not that common, at the same time (of course there’re accumulated invisible incidents that are shared only within the community, though). It’s true making jokes about gayness has been like an everyday occurrence, and it always makes me suuuuper ughhh, but it’s also true that now more and more people (including understanding straight people) raise their voice against it, and there’re fewer and fewer chances to come across such stale and outdated homophobic jokes.

I saw a play at the national theatre this summer and still remember clearly how the audience reacted to a scene where a female character sais jokingly to another woman “don’t get me wrong, I’m not that kind!”, an all too familiar way of saying I’m straight. This line has been an easy tool to thoughtlessly make a funny(-ish) scene in dramas, but this time no one laughed, actually. Not a single one. I’m not jumping onto a hasty generalisation here, but this gave me a strong impression that something has already changed.

If you come to Japan, maybe you can’t expect too much, but you don’t have to get overly disappointed beforehand either, and also maybe keep in mind again this is a rather average country. Hope my comment encourages you somehow👍

Dragonflyer · Answer

@MrRainbow1803 there’s always those kinds who like to rub in with unnecessary agression😅. Don’t care about their words. See ya!

sakisuke · Answer

Maybe most people can enjoy stories about lgbt people, but cannot accept them as a member of your family.
I don’t know how many Japanese accept lgbt friends, but it’s still common to make a joke about them.

sakisuke · Answer

@shikanosuke 同性同士でも結婚できたり、同性愛をからかう風潮がなくなったりしてから鬱陶しく思っていただけると幸いです……

sakisuke · Answer

@shikanosuke そうかもしれませんね。私は誰もからかわれずにすむ社会が良いと考えていることと、たとえ完全には実現されないとしても理想は追うべきだと思っていることから上のようにコメントさせていただきました。
私とは異なる価値観をお持ちのようですが、丁寧に返信してくださりありがとうございました。

chiui · Answer

別に気にしないと思いますよ。必要以上に主張したり風紀を乱すような行動をしなければ。

chiui · Answer

@MrRainbow1803 偏見に基づいて質問をしてるようだけど回答読んでます？

chiui · Answer

@MrRainbow1803 日本語でどうぞ。

chiui · Answer

@MrRainbow1803 日本語簡単なんでしょ？

chiui · Answer

@MrRainbow1803 Lol. It’s not “doing”. Do you “do English”?

chiui · Answer

@MrRainbow1803 if Japanese is really easy for you, you wouldn’t say “feel like” kind of stuff. 
日本語でどうぞ。

chiui · Answer

@MrRainbow1803 I’m relatively fluent in English, although I don’t say it’s easy or anything. So even when I “don’t feel like doing” English, I can read and understand what’s said in English. 
Hm.

chiui · Answer

@MrRainbow1803 then you shouldn’t say it’s easy.

chiui · Answer

@MrRainbow1803 Hiragana is what a 6yo kids learn in Japan. They learn 4000 more. And nothing is written only with Hiragana here. Those who only know Hiragana can’t say anything about Japanese. 
It’s a big topic because no one doesn’t want to be said his mother tongue is “easy” especially by a person who doesn’t know anything about it.

chiui · Answer

@MrRainbow1803 LOL.  Knowing only Hiragana and Katakana is way far from intermediate which you insist in your profile.

chiui · Answer

@MrRainbow1803 Haha

chiui · Answer

@MrRainbow1803 lol

chiui · Answer

@hayabusa6796 子供を持つことがディスアドバンテージにならないよう、子供に対する補助はしてよいと思います。ただ、子供を持つ専業主婦の優遇は不要と思います。就業可能な大人ですから。
社会福祉に頼る危険性の低い経済的に安定した子育て世帯を増やす、すなわち両親ともフルタイムで就業しながら子育てすることを推奨するために、保育園や保育関連サービスの整備はもっとしないとですね。

acient · Answer

don't you think every quarrel is alike?
sometimes people hate you unreasonablely.
there was a foreigner being very active in China community，I discussed several questions with him about China.I thought we had good relationship.but one day he was mad at me，and made hostile comments to me. later I found  maybe that was because of being treated unfairly by other Chinese.I was no more angry with him after I thought I understood the reasons.

this is why I believe people working on the friendship between two nationalities or countries must be very generous and kind.they will suffer from blames from both sides.that is what a mature man should be like.

people tend to be very sensitive to harmful and unfriendly people.don't take it seriously ，and why not spend more time with people who like you？

I was a fan to read some ancient Chinese novels.they are very interesting.many storys sing the praises of gay couples among more love stories between straight couples.they were treated equally by the author.there are aways open-minded people in different times.I usually can not hate everyone from the novels.everyone has diffculties and pains in different ways.

ysuke · Answer

in my place almost all people do not care about them if they do not kissing etc. in public. ( Japanese people do not like such an action in public even if they are couple of man and woman)

Celia_Bnz · Answer

Really bad unfortunately

how are gay people viewed in japan?

Really bad unfortunately

in my place almost all people do not care about them if they do not kissing etc. in public. ( Japanese people do not like such an action in public even if they are couple of man and woman)

別に気にしないと思いますよ。必要以上に主張したり風紀を乱すような行動をしなければ。

Maybe most people can enjoy stories about lgbt people, but cannot accept them as a member of your family.
I don’t know how many Japanese accept lgbt friends, but it’s still common to make a joke about them.

@shikanosuke 同性同士でも結婚できたり、同性愛をからかう風潮がなくなったりしてから鬱陶しく思っていただけると幸いです……

@ysuke @shikanosuke @sakisuke @clova @chiui Hey everybody, thanks for the answers its pretty depressing to me to hear that not a lot of people are accepted and i hope that will change soon. but i wont let this affect me, and im still planning on moving to japan. thanks everybody!

@Dragonflyer thank you! yes the quarrel was stupid which is why i left after my last comment. see ya! :3

@MrRainbow1803 there’s always those kinds who like to rub in with unnecessary agression😅. Don’t care about their words. See ya!

@Dragonflyer thank you!

@hayabusa6796 i really dont see how the conversation got to that point. anyways in public places how would they be treated? and when job searching if your gay would that effect whether you would get the job or not?

@hayabusa6796 how so?!?!?!?

@hayabusa6796 anyways thank you for answering my question and to everyone else too. also why do i have to apologize since i said "good" there is nothing to apologize for? also bye everyone.

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how are gay people viewed in japan? See a translation

Really bad unfortunately

in my place almost all people do not care about them if they do not kissing etc. in public. ( Japanese people do not like such an action in public even if they are couple of man and woman)

別に気にしないと思いますよ。必要以上に主張したり風紀を乱すような行動をしなければ。

Maybe most people can enjoy stories about lgbt people, but cannot accept them as a member of your family.I don’t know how many Japanese accept lgbt friends, but it’s still common to make a joke about them.

@shikanosuke 同性同士でも結婚できたり、同性愛をからかう風潮がなくなったりしてから鬱陶しく思っていただけると幸いです……

@ysuke @shikanosuke @sakisuke @clova @chiui Hey everybody, thanks for the answers its pretty depressing to me to hear that not a lot of people are accepted and i hope that will change soon. but i wont let this affect me, and im still planning on moving to japan. thanks everybody!

@Dragonflyer thank you! yes the quarrel was stupid which is why i left after my last comment. see ya! :3

@MrRainbow1803 there’s always those kinds who like to rub in with unnecessary agression😅. Don’t care about their words. See ya!

@Dragonflyer thank you!

@hayabusa6796 i really dont see how the conversation got to that point. anyways in public places how would they be treated? and when job searching if your gay would that effect whether you would get the job or not?

@hayabusa6796 how so?!?!?!?

@hayabusa6796 anyways thank you for answering my question and to everyone else too. also why do i have to apologize since i said "good" there is nothing to apologize for? also bye everyone.

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how are gay people viewed in japan?

Maybe most people can enjoy stories about lgbt people, but cannot accept them as a member of your family.
I don’t know how many Japanese accept lgbt friends, but it’s still common to make a joke about them.