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vietnaman
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¿Cómo dices esto en Japonés? Does the rough language ending「ねぇ」（例えば、「ふざけんじゃねぇぞ！」とか「友達じゃねぇ！」） originate from Western Japan? I know that the usage of 「ええ」（例えば、「どうでもええねん」とか「何でもええねん」）instead of「良い」 originates from Western Japan. Does this too originate from that region?

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pompoco0326
3 dic 2022

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「どうでもええねん」or「何でもええねん」originates from Western Japan, but western Japnese never say「ふざけんじゃねぇぞ！」or「友達じゃねぇ！」, because these are dialects spoken in eastern Japan.

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tkhato20
3 dic 2022

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>‎Does the rough language ending「ねぇ」… No, I don't think so. 〜〜〜〜〜 https://san-tatsu.jp/articles/142316/ 小野先生　：　「うるさい」→「うるせえ」→「うっせえ」と変化し、最後に「わ」が付いて「うっせぇわ」になっています。 「うるせえ」は、関東のなまり方です。 「あ」「い」の母音が連続すると「え」に変化することがよくあります。「書いた」→「けえた」、「鯛（たい）」→「てえ」といった具合です。 〜〜〜〜〜 https://www.sljfaq.org/afaq/itee-sugee.html In slangy or rough speech, i adjectives (see What is an i adjective?) and na adjectives ending in ai or oi often change to ee endings. For example, sugoi, an i adjective meaning "amazing", becomes sugee, and karai, a na adjective meaning "hot, spicy", becomes karee. Similarly, itai becomes itee. Urusai, meaning "noisy" or "shut up" (see What are some Japanese insults and swear-words?) becomes urusee, hence the pun in the name of the manga Urusei Yatsura (ウル星ヤツラ). This is usually a spoken form, but when written down, it is often written either with a small kana エ, as in イテェ, or a wavy line, イテェ～. Any adjective ending in ai or oi can take this pattern. Negative verbs ending in nai can also change, as in iranee for iranai. Adjectives ending in ui, such as warui, "bad", change to warii, similarly akarui becomes akarii. This is not as common as the oi, ai change to ee though.

>‎Does the rough language ending「ねぇ」…
No, I don't think so.

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https://san-tatsu.jp/articles/142316/
小野先生　：　「うるさい」→「うるせえ」→「うっせえ」と変化し、最後に「わ」が付いて「うっせぇわ」になっています。
「うるせえ」は、関東のなまり方です。 「あ」「い」の母音が連続すると「え」に変化することがよくあります。「書いた」→「けえた」、「鯛（たい）」→「てえ」といった具合です。


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https://www.sljfaq.org/afaq/itee-sugee.html
In slangy or rough speech, i adjectives (see What is an i adjective?) and na adjectives ending in ai or oi often change to ee endings. For example, sugoi, an i adjective meaning "amazing", becomes sugee, and karai, a na adjective meaning "hot, spicy", becomes karee. Similarly, itai becomes itee. Urusai, meaning "noisy" or "shut up" (see What are some Japanese insults and swear-words?) becomes urusee, hence the pun in the name of the manga Urusei Yatsura (ウル星ヤツラ).

This is usually a spoken form, but when written down, it is often written either with a small kana エ, as in イテェ, or a wavy line, イテェ～.

Any adjective ending in ai or oi can take this pattern. Negative verbs ending in nai can also change, as in iranee for iranai.

Adjectives ending in ui, such as warui, "bad", change to warii, similarly akarui becomes akarii. This is not as common as the oi, ai change to ee though.

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vietnaman
3 dic 2022

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@tkhato20 This was exceptionally helpful, thank you very much
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vietnaman
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@pompoco0326 Thank you very much! I didn't know it was from Eastern Japan, thanks!
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¿Cómo dices esto en Japonés? Does the rough language ending「ねぇ」（例えば、「ふざけんじゃねぇぞ！」とか「友達じゃねぇ！」） originate from Western Japan? I know that the usage of 「ええ」（例えば、「どうでもええねん」とか「何でもええねん」）instead of「良い」 originates from Western Japan. Does this too originate from that region?
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